Comments on: How to write faster – learn Teeline shorthand http://www.badlanguage.net/how-to-write-faster-learn-teeline-shorthand Writing, marketing and technology Fri, 03 Feb 2012 05:56:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: sarah lonerd http://www.badlanguage.net/how-to-write-faster-learn-teeline-shorthand/comment-page-1#comment-784836 sarah lonerd Thu, 02 Feb 2012 13:22:38 +0000 http://www.badlanguage.net/how-to-write-faster-learn-teeline-shorthand#comment-784836 oh thanks a lot, now am traing to learn a shorthand, woh its very well, oh thanks a lot, now am traing to learn a shorthand, woh its very well,

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.badlanguage.net/how-to-write-faster-learn-teeline-shorthand/comment-page-1#comment-782823 Anonymous Fri, 27 Jan 2012 01:07:46 +0000 http://www.badlanguage.net/how-to-write-faster-learn-teeline-shorthand#comment-782823 Hi, I'm 14 years old and I've been learning Teeline for about 6 weeks with pretty good success. I'm at 60 WPM (faster than regular writing) and I've pretty much learned it for free. I know I could have learned it much faster if I bought a book, but I'm still pretty happy with how far I've gotten. If you want to see the manual I used, its here: http://www.scribd.com/saimu0/d/9436925-Teeline-Complete. It's pretty good, but when you finish you'll likely only be at 30 WPM. To build speed, you can start here: http://teeline.weebly.com. It won't get you all the way to 100 WPM just by itself, but I think there are enough resources if you look through the whole internet! Hi, I’m 14 years old and I’ve been learning Teeline for about 6 weeks with pretty good success. I’m at 60 WPM (faster than regular writing) and I’ve pretty much learned it for free. I know I could have learned it much faster if I bought a book, but I’m still pretty happy with how far I’ve gotten. If you want to see the manual I used, its here: http://www.scribd.com/saimu0/d/9436925-Teeline-Complete. It’s pretty good, but when you finish you’ll likely only be at 30 WPM. To build speed, you can start here: http://teeline.weebly.com. It won’t get you all the way to 100 WPM just by itself, but I think there are enough resources if you look through the whole internet!

]]> By: Nemo http://www.badlanguage.net/how-to-write-faster-learn-teeline-shorthand/comment-page-1#comment-770099 Nemo Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:22:33 +0000 http://www.badlanguage.net/how-to-write-faster-learn-teeline-shorthand#comment-770099 What people have to understand, is that A five or six year old learning to write will have trouble reading things too. And when you first learn any shorthand, that's what you are like. The only way to get proficient at it is to practice it obviously, but also to use it. The only time I use longhand anymore is when typing. If I'm writing, then I'm using shorthand and believe me after a while two things will become clear. 1, You will start writing it faster simply because of repetition. And 2, you will start seeing the words. You already recognize your own handwriting, and after a while you will just recognize what you wrote. It just takes time. When you first learned to read and write as a child, how long did it take you to be able to read and write without hesitation? Just my thoughts.... On a side note, I write with a Gregg/Teeline hybrid that I came up with when I was learning, along with my own set of rules. (It was just easier and made more since for me) but now anytime that I even try to write in longhand, my hand reverts right back into the shorthand. I found that out at the BMV I had to pause and think how to write in longhand.... What people have to understand, is that A five or six year old learning to write will have trouble reading things too. And when you first learn any shorthand, that’s what you are like. The only way to get proficient at it is to practice it obviously, but also to use it. The only time I use longhand anymore is when typing. If I’m writing, then I’m using shorthand and believe me after a while two things will become clear. 1, You will start writing it faster simply because of repetition. And 2, you will start seeing the words. You already recognize your own handwriting, and after a while you will just recognize what you wrote. It just takes time. When you first learned to read and write as a child, how long did it take you to be able to read and write without hesitation? Just my thoughts…. On a side note, I write with a Gregg/Teeline hybrid that I came up with when I was learning, along with my own set of rules. (It was just easier and made more since for me) but now anytime that I even try to write in longhand, my hand reverts right back into the shorthand. I found that out at the BMV I had to pause and think how to write in longhand….

]]> By: DEVENDER BISHNOI http://www.badlanguage.net/how-to-write-faster-learn-teeline-shorthand/comment-page-1#comment-759324 DEVENDER BISHNOI Fri, 28 Oct 2011 05:02:27 +0000 http://www.badlanguage.net/how-to-write-faster-learn-teeline-shorthand#comment-759324 Plz guide me how to easily Learn. Plz guide me how to easily Learn.

]]> By: Matthew Stibbe http://www.badlanguage.net/how-to-write-faster-learn-teeline-shorthand/comment-page-1#comment-713120 Matthew Stibbe Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:28:51 +0000 http://www.badlanguage.net/how-to-write-faster-learn-teeline-shorthand#comment-713120 I learned to type early in life and my university final exams were a real struggle after years of typing. But what really screwed my handwriting was years of Palm Pilot use and its handwriting recognition which required block capitals. I learned to type early in life and my university final exams were a real struggle after years of typing. But what really screwed my handwriting was years of Palm Pilot use and its handwriting recognition which required block capitals.

]]> By: Stuart Steedman http://www.badlanguage.net/how-to-write-faster-learn-teeline-shorthand/comment-page-1#comment-713111 Stuart Steedman Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:17:24 +0000 http://www.badlanguage.net/how-to-write-faster-learn-teeline-shorthand#comment-713111 I investigated learning Teeline shorthand at University, and wrote all my statistics notes in it. At the end of term it was far too much effort to try to read them, and I got the lowest grade of all my courses... I learned to touch-type in 1995, when I realised it would be a useful skill for a programmer, and so nowadays my handwriting is terrible and I find it very frustrating to have to slow down to make it more legible - that's why I found myself here today. So I'll be giving Teeline another try and see if it can become second nature... Also, have looked into one handed typing - useful for when you use the mouse a lot... I investigated learning Teeline shorthand at University, and wrote all my statistics notes in it. At the end of term it was far too much effort to try to read them, and I got the lowest grade of all my courses…

I learned to touch-type in 1995, when I realised it would be a useful skill for a programmer, and so nowadays my handwriting is terrible and I find it very frustrating to have to slow down to make it more legible – that’s why I found myself here today. So I’ll be giving Teeline another try and see if it can become second nature…

Also, have looked into one handed typing – useful for when you use the mouse a lot…

]]> By: anna http://www.badlanguage.net/how-to-write-faster-learn-teeline-shorthand/comment-page-1#comment-674432 anna Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:32:18 +0000 http://www.badlanguage.net/how-to-write-faster-learn-teeline-shorthand#comment-674432 I've always found teeline very useful, good to see it getting some exposure, I wish the iphone would utilise it. I’ve always found teeline very useful, good to see it getting some exposure, I wish the iphone would utilise it.

]]> By: Suzain Khan http://www.badlanguage.net/how-to-write-faster-learn-teeline-shorthand/comment-page-1#comment-666620 Suzain Khan Tue, 15 Jun 2010 06:05:29 +0000 http://www.badlanguage.net/how-to-write-faster-learn-teeline-shorthand#comment-666620 I think the tablet-PC manufacturers like HP and Apple should get behind Teeline and other forms of shorthand as a natural input method for their devices. Most documents are now typed and our handwriting skills are used mainly for taking notes. If the uses for handwriting have been refocused for a specific task (note taking) then our skills investment should also be refocused (e.g. learn shorthand in school rather than longhand). New fashionable devices like the iPad are useful catalyst in this process. If the next version of the iPad recognised Teeline natively, then many more people would learn it and the clear benefits of shorthand would be brought to light. I think the tablet-PC manufacturers like HP and Apple should get behind Teeline and other forms of shorthand as a natural input method for their devices. Most documents are now typed and our handwriting skills are used mainly for taking notes. If the uses for handwriting have been refocused for a specific task (note taking) then our skills investment should also be refocused (e.g. learn shorthand in school rather than longhand). New fashionable devices like the iPad are useful catalyst in this process. If the next version of the iPad recognised Teeline natively, then many more people would learn it and the clear benefits of shorthand would be brought to light.

]]> By: Adam Fidler http://www.badlanguage.net/how-to-write-faster-learn-teeline-shorthand/comment-page-1#comment-664752 Adam Fidler Wed, 02 Jun 2010 20:36:45 +0000 http://www.badlanguage.net/how-to-write-faster-learn-teeline-shorthand#comment-664752 i-Pads recognising Teeline Shorthand... it'll never happen. People have tried previously to create systems where WRITTEN shorthand is translated automatically into typed text on a PC. Unfortunately, the complexities of even a logical shorthand system like Teeline are far too great for a PC to understand. The beauty of Teeline is that there are many ways to write an outline (an outline is a word written in Teeline), and Teeline also takes the natural shape/flow of someone's handwriting - how would a PC recognise all that unless the writer were forced to write Teeline in a consistent way? Even Pitman shorthand, which fell out of favour because it was too rigid and could only be written in one way, wouldn't work with computer aided transcription. Shorthand is too fidly and 'short' for a PC to recognise it - that's the whole point - it's quick and easy to write. Moreover, in shorthand, one outline can mean more than one word - so the context of the sentence tells you which word it is. Computers don't understand 'context', so they couldn't distinguish, for instance, between a sentence which was "I was amuzed at that" when it should be "I was amazed at that". There are systems used in court reporting, such as Palantype, which provided real-time transcription - as the stenographer 'types' the shorthand words (using a special keyboard), the system transcribes them automatically into long-hand. But, for that to work in an office or 'on the move' would require the shorthand writer to carry round with them their special keyboard and system. You can't beat the fluency of a shorthand writer, with a pad and pencil - and their ability to transcribe at 100% accuracy straight afterwards. It's an art in itself - believe me, I've done it. I got 140 wpm in Teeline shorthand, and have used it every single day for the last 17 years. So, I would certainly recommend it - it's as valuable today as it ever was. I won't hold my breath though for the i-Pads or i-Phones that can transcribe WRITTEN shorthand! i-Pads recognising Teeline Shorthand… it’ll never happen. People have tried previously to create systems where WRITTEN shorthand is translated automatically into typed text on a PC. Unfortunately, the complexities of even a logical shorthand system like Teeline are far too great for a PC to understand. The beauty of Teeline is that there are many ways to write an outline (an outline is a word written in Teeline), and Teeline also takes the natural shape/flow of someone’s handwriting – how would a PC recognise all that unless the writer were forced to write Teeline in a consistent way? Even Pitman shorthand, which fell out of favour because it was too rigid and could only be written in one way, wouldn’t work with computer aided transcription. Shorthand is too fidly and ‘short’ for a PC to recognise it – that’s the whole point – it’s quick and easy to write. Moreover, in shorthand, one outline can mean more than one word – so the context of the sentence tells you which word it is. Computers don’t understand ‘context’, so they couldn’t distinguish, for instance, between a sentence which was “I was amuzed at that” when it should be “I was amazed at that”. There are systems used in court reporting, such as Palantype, which provided real-time transcription – as the stenographer ‘types’ the shorthand words (using a special keyboard), the system transcribes them automatically into long-hand. But, for that to work in an office or ‘on the move’ would require the shorthand writer to carry round with them their special keyboard and system. You can’t beat the fluency of a shorthand writer, with a pad and pencil – and their ability to transcribe at 100% accuracy straight afterwards. It’s an art in itself – believe me, I’ve done it. I got 140 wpm in Teeline shorthand, and have used it every single day for the last 17 years. So, I would certainly recommend it – it’s as valuable today as it ever was. I won’t hold my breath though for the i-Pads or i-Phones that can transcribe WRITTEN shorthand!

]]> By: Matthew Stibbe http://www.badlanguage.net/how-to-write-faster-learn-teeline-shorthand/comment-page-1#comment-653510 Matthew Stibbe Tue, 02 Mar 2010 18:14:55 +0000 http://www.badlanguage.net/how-to-write-faster-learn-teeline-shorthand#comment-653510 That sounds like a good idea. I suspect, though, that Apple is wary of handwriting recognition (of any kind) after the whole Newton debacle. Hence the big keyboard and no stylus. Matthew That sounds like a good idea. I suspect, though, that Apple is wary of handwriting recognition (of any kind) after the whole Newton debacle. Hence the big keyboard and no stylus. Matthew

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